are woven into Chicago's history and residents have been able to experience it all at venues across the city.

Chicago's culture landscape is constantly evolving.

Some well-known institutions have recently undergone changes from cells to renovations to closures many of these spaces trying to stay afloat to name a few.

The Promontory and High Park and links Hong your Roscoe village, both close last year while the double door abandoned plans to reopen in Uptown DePaul University's announced plans to close its art museum this June.

Meanwhile, the hideout sold to new ownership and a new operator announced plans to reopen the 400 theater in Rogers Park.

Joining us here to talk about all this is louder, Caroline, the lot of the director of the DePaul Art Museum and Georgia standstill.

The new operator of the 400 theater and Teri O'Brien, the new owner of the hideout.

Thank you all for joining us.

I want to start with you that to as we just mentioned, the pollen out of the art museum will be closing in June.

What is the city losing with this closure?

Thank you so much joining.

Thank you so much for having us and giving us the space to talk about this you know, our cultural organizations shape our city.

It's a reason for people to come visit.

It's a reason for students to come learn in our city.

And that's one of the big things for me is having.

>> Our students at the university lose.

That's really important aspect in his full capacity is it's running.

We've done an incredible job with our exhibitions on that have been locally internationally known bringing international the local artists.

So being able to provide a platform, particularly for those artists that aren't generally shown in some of the larger museums.

This is a really, you know, we are really important for You would say it.

>> Now, Terry, how serious is the risk of losing more music venues and Chicago?

How serious is the risk of losing more music in Chicago have more like news.

More music venues.

I mean, so obviously menus, I feel like are the heart and soul of city.

I feel like you get more culture and you get more of the Chicago experience.

Firms obvious menus, but more than just music, the hideout is that a community hall, it's so much more than music.

It's comedy.

It's community conversation and it's a really cool legacy that the 4 on our started 30 years ago feel like that.

That's more important than just music.

Now, of course, in joining you're taking on a staple in the Rogers Park community.

What would you are some of the challenges of operating a small theater?

>> I think once you know, deal with some of the buildings, it.

You know, these are these are older buildings.

400 EUR has been closed since 2023. it was originally a single screen theater over 100 years ago and it was, you know, chopped up into different pieces.

And so some of the some of the chopping might not have the best idea.

Sometimes you have to kind of retro fit and deal with, you know, just all the old building issues that are out there.

But I think it's a very viable theater.

Really letting writers Park is going to support it for sure.

>> What was your passion behind saving it?

>> Well, I started with my family's a single screen theater in Grayling, Michigan, which great grandfather founded in 1915.

And so I would there's it as a kid and then came back after college and different experiences professionally.

When I was in my early 30's and started running it and realize there are other, you know, other theater locations that you could do something similar, which is provide that kind of community space.

That also Terry mentioned the music and people really, they really need that.

They really actually right now at a theater in Big Rapids, Michigan.

They were opening tomorrow.

Although I look around the lobby be a pretty late, that's also makes president to you.

>> I like that personal story now.

Terry, you took on you took over the owner, the owner over his own of the hideout just a weeks ago.

What can people expect us to say to see at the hideout?

And you also have a personal story.

Think I was reading that you interned at the height out.

Yes, I worked there from 2015 to 2017 versus the intern.

And then the door girl, which mostly like hospitality, welcoming the band's paying out the >> I hope this isn't a lane answer.

But I want to continue the legacy that the Twins and Katie and Tim built.

So it's going to be much of the same.

But I also have more of a national perspective.

I'm an artist and a singer, songwriter, and I've spent the last 8 years of my life touring all over the country and living in Nashville.

So I've seen a lot of small music venues have fallen and with them and I feel like I can bring.

Pete, I can bring musicians and comp comedians from all over the country.

That's amazing.

Door girl you just may use mentioned or girl so door girl to to honor.

That has to be like a full circle moment for >> I want talk to you about what kind of community support have you seen since Apollo announced the museum will be closing?

Yeah, thank I will you know, having been at the museum over the last 10 years, we knew that we had built up a really incredible community, both on and off campus.

there was a letter that when Arounds that as of today, I think was up to about 38 little over.

3800 signatures ends.

You know, I think to have folks come out and really be able to show support if nothing else has really made an incredible impact on our staff, particularly during such a difficult moment, which you know is, of course, not just us, but universities across the United States Park museums, arts venues across United States.

As we're talking about here.

So and you know, to have folks come in and really be able to tell us that they enjoy our service, is that it's something that they hope can continue, that it is something that is a really critical, crucial part of the city is its most devastating to just to know how many artists, you know, crossed.

Yeah, they're know, it's one It's one of those things where I was I was married and museum.

I been like raising my what I can say and what I'm really excited about because I have been there for so long that I have seen our collection grow in incredible ways featuring internationally, but also Chicago, they have really wants to their careers through our museum.

And I'm I'm pleased to say that the university will actually be keeping the collection are no plans to tell if there are no plans to sell the building.

And are are planning on really upholding the best standards and practices for caring for that collection and using it for educational purposes.

So I know they're putting together groups of faculty and students to be able talk through kind of what the future the museum looks like.

Generally no connection to it.

Yeah, I'm I'm hopeful for those and I'm you know, for me personally, it's it's another ends and we'll see what that looks like moving forward.

>> And Jordan, what can what can independent theaters offer that chains, the change candidate?

Would you say?

>> Well, first of all, lower prices, I think is you know, besides all of this side of the community, commitment and the experience that you have when you're there, it's just not the kind of cookie cutter experience, but I guess those are kind of the 2 points I would would make.

We're just lower prices and also committed to stay there.

The on the Florida theater opens.

I don't I don't envision it closing.

There's not there's not an exit strategy.

I don't flip these things or anything.

I mean, it starts and it never stops.

>> Terry, same question for you.

I I love with Jordan's answer was I think it's less water down and it's cookie cutter.

It's there's so much culture.

It's such a part of the community and it's just a microcosm of the greater Chicago area.

And so it's just I love that we can keep it alive.

Well, thank I appreciate all of your feedback and yours.

Personal stories.

It seems like you guys all have a really