
The Colorado River Plan, Tariffs Impact on AZ Businesses, OCJ Kids Foster Foundation
Season 2026 Episode 154 | 26m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
The River crisis threatens water to millions; President put tariffs on countries; Foster Foundation
The Colorado River crisis is threatening the water supply of millions of people and the electricity that powers cities across the Southwest, and the federal Bureau of Reclamation has released a plan; President Trump announced 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, as well as tariffs of 10-12% on more than 80 countries; OCJ Kids was created to change the culture of foster care in Arizona.
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The Colorado River Plan, Tariffs Impact on AZ Businesses, OCJ Kids Foster Foundation
Season 2026 Episode 154 | 26m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
The Colorado River crisis is threatening the water supply of millions of people and the electricity that powers cities across the Southwest, and the federal Bureau of Reclamation has released a plan; President Trump announced 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, as well as tariffs of 10-12% on more than 80 countries; OCJ Kids was created to change the culture of foster care in Arizona.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: A CLOSER LOOK AT THE FEDERAL FRAMEWORK FOR COLORADO RIVER WATER ALLOCATIONS.
ALSO TONIGHT, PHOENIX AREA BUSINESSES REACT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LATEST TARIFFS ON CANADIAN GOODS.
AND, WE'LL HEAR ABOUT A NEW COMMUNITY IMPACT CENTER FOR FOSTER CHILDREN.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.
TED: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE U.S.
INTERIOR DEPARTMENT RECENTLY RELEASED ITS FINAL REVIEW OF A NEW PLAN TO MANAGE WATER SHORTAGES ON THE COLORADO RIVER.
THE PLAN CALLS FOR SIGNIFICANT WATER DELIVERY REDUCTIONS TO ARIZONA CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA, WITH ARIZONA TAKING THE BIGGEST HIT.TO LEARN MORE, WE WELCOME SARAH PORTER, DIRECTOR OF THE KYL CENTER FOR WATER POLICY AT ASU'S MORRISON INSTUTUTE.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
>> NICE TO BE HERE.
TED: ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS THE LONG AWAITED.
YOU FINALLY GOT THIS THING.
THIS IS LIKE A TWO-YEAR PLAN WITHIN A TEN-YEAR FRAMEWORK.
LET'S START WITH THAT.
>> YEAH.
SO WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT AMONG THE STATES, THE BUREAU DECIDED TO PRODUCE WHAT THEY CALL DECISION-- A FRAMEWORK FOR DECISION MAKING, SO IT IS A TEN-YEAR SCOPE, THAT SAYS HERE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN DO.
WE CAN HOLD BACK THIS MUCH WATER FROM THE LOWER BASIN.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF WATER.
THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF WATER WE CAN RELEASE FROM THE UPPER BASIN.
THEY REFERRED TO AS A RANGE OF OPTIONS THAT THE FEDS FEEL THEY HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO, I WILL JUST ADD THAT THE FRAMEWORK THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED REALLY IS GEARED TOWARD KEEPING HYDROPOWER PRODUCTION MAINTAINING PRODUCTION SALT LAKE POWELL AND LAKE MEAD AND ALSO PROTECTING FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE MAKING SURE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT WRECKED BY WHATEVER IS HAPPENING ON THE SYSTEM.
THERE IS A TWO-YEAR PROPOSAL BY ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, NEVADA, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS TEN-YEAR DECISION-MAKING FRAMEWORK.
TED: WITH THAT IN MIND, DOES THAT MEAN WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY TWO YEARS FOR AWHILE?
>> NOTICE WE, AS A BASIN, OR MAYBE EVEN JUST AS THE LOWER BASIN, COME UP WITH A LONGER-TERM PROPOSAL, THE EXPECTATION IS, EVERY TWO YEARS.
TED: ALL RIGHT.
FROM WHAT THE FEDS RELEASED HERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, AGAIN, ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, NEVADA GETTING HIT.
ARIZONA GETS HIT THE HARDEST, HUH?
YEAH.
THE THREE LOWER BASIN STATES HAVE AGREED TO SPECIFIC AMOUNTS TO BE CUT.
ARIZONA HAS A TOTAL IN NONSHORTAGE YEAR, IT WOULD HAVE APPORTION OF 2.8MILLION ACRE.
IT HAS AGREED TO A CUT OF$765,000ACRE FEET.
MOST OF THAT COMING OUT OF THE CENTRAL ARIZONA PROJECT CANAL.
OK.
WHERE HAVE I HEARD, IT COULD GO UP TO 3MILLION.
>> THAT IS IN THE SIDE BOARDS, THE RANGE OF AUTHORITY THAT THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION HAS IDENTIFIED OR DETERMINED IN THIS DOCUMENT, THE DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK, AND SO, THEY ARE BASICALLY SAYING, IF CONDITIONS GET WORSE, WE CAN INCREASE CUTS ALL THE WAY TO THREE-MILLION ACRES.
WHICH WOULD BE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WOULD BE DELIVERED TO THE LOWER BASIN IS 7.5348.
SO IT IS 40% OR SO.
VERY SIGNIFICANT.
>> DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES SAID IF YOU HIT 3MILLION IT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO ARIZONA ECONOMY.
THEY ARE RIGHT.
>> IT WOULD BE IF IT WENT ACCORDING TO PRIORITY BECAUSE, CAP WATER USERS HAVE LOWER PRIORITY IN THE LOWER BASIN, AND THAT MEANS, THEORETICALLY, I DON'T REALLY EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN, BUT THEORETICALLY, ALL OF THE WATER THAT THE CAP DELIVERS WOULD BE CUT BEFORE HIGHER PRIORITY USERS IN THE PASS SIN HAD THEIR WATER CUT, SO THAT IS ABOUT 1.5MILLION-ACRE.
I IMAGINE THAT ALL OF THE COLORADO RIVER WATER THAT CENTRAL ARIZONA RELIES ON WERE CUT.
>> HOLY SMOKES.
>> AS FAR AS THE IMMEDIATE IMPACT, WOULD THAT MEAN LESS UNDER GROUND STORAGE, IT WOULD MEAN LESS FOR AGRICULTURE.
WHAT TO WE SNEEZE WELL, BECAUSE, BECAUSE, IN ARIZONA, BECAUSE THE CULT IS MOSTLY GOING TO, IT WILL PRESUMABLY ALMOST ENTIRELY GO TO CAP.
IT WILL, IT WILL IMPACT CITIES AND TRIBES, PRIMARILY, THE FIRST CUTS OCCURRED ON THE 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE COLORADO COMPACT OF 2022 AND IT WAS AT THAT TIME, THAT AGRICULTURE IN CENTRAL ARIZONA HAD THE WATER PRETTY MUCH CUT.
SO THEY HAVE ALREADY-- THAT GROUP HAS EXPERIENCED THEIR CUT.
PRIMARILY, I MEAN, AS YOU SAY, THE, THE 765,000-ACRE FOOT CUT, WE WOULD SEE A BIG LOSS OF SUPPLIES FOR AQUIFER RECHARGE.
TED: YEAH.
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A CUT THAT WITH SOME MITIGATION FROM THE ARIZONA WATER BANKING AUTHORITY WILL PROBABLY AMOUNT TO ABOUT A 14% CUT.
THAT IS THE PROJECTION FOR CITIES, AND A 10% CUT TO TRIBES IN THE CAP SERVICE AREA.
>> I KNOW THE CITIES HAVE SAID THEY ARE WORKING ON.
THEY GOT WATER PURIFICATION.
THIS SORT OF BUSINESS.
THEY GOT UNDERGROUND STORAGE.
THE CONSERVATION.
IT IS ALL OF THAT GOING TO BE ENOUGH WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE?
>> YES.
IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU ARE ASKING THE TOP TAPS GOING TO RUN DRY?
ARE CITIES GOING TO HAVE EMERGENCIES?
THE ANSWER IS VERY UNLIKELY BECAUSE CITIES HAVE WORKED SO HARD IN CENTRAL ARIZONA TO BE READY FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DAY WHEN THERE ARE REALLY DEEP CUTS IN COLORADO RIVER SUPPLIES.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THAT.
CITIES HAVE NOT BUILD OUT DEMAND.
THEY HAVE NOT GROWN WATER DEMAND TO THE LIMITS OF THE COLORADO RIVER SUPPLIES.
THAT IS A WAY TO MANAGE.
>> IT IS A PRUDENT WAY.
YOU KNOW HOW GROWTH IS.
ARIZONA'S GROWTH INDUSTRY IS GROWTH.
>> THE OTHER PROTECTION HERE ARE ASSURED WATER SUPPLY RULES, WHICH REALLY PUSH LARGER WATER PROVIDERS, ALMOST ALL OF THE CITIES IN THE PHOENIX AREA.
THE BIGGER CITIES IN THE TUCSON AREA.
THEY ARE REALLY REQUIRED TO PLAN OUT THE WATER PORTFOLIOS TO MEET DEMAND FOR 100 YEARS, SO THEY ARE GOING THROUGH DISCOUNTING COLORADO RIVER SUPPLIES, SO THAT THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE OVER RELIANT ON THEM.
>> REAL QUICKLY, THE GOVERNOR WANTS THE FEDS TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL THAT ARIZONA THE LOWER BASIN STATES HAD WHICH INCLUDED THE UPPER BASIN STATES, VOLUNTARILY CUTTING BACK WATER.
THE VOLUNTARY PART OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN A PRON, HAVEN'T IT?
ARE THE UPPER BASIN STATES ANY MORE LIKELY TO DO THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF HE THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR HEARTS TO THE LOWER BASIN, PROBABLY NOT.
BUT, THERE IS, THERE IS KIND OF A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY, IF, IF THE UPPER BASIN WOULD VOLUNTARY CONSERVE WATER AND SEND IT.
EVERYBODY WOULD CELEBRATE.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
THEY HAVE SO FAR REFUSED TO DO THAT IN THE YEARS OF NEGOTIATIONS OVER THIS.
BUT THERE IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HEAD WATER STATES.
THE WATER USERS IN THE UPPER BASIN DON'T ALL TAKE THE WATER FROM ONE RESERVOIR THE WAY THE LOWER BASINS DO.
ALL OF THE COLORADO RIVER WATER WE USE IN THE LOWER BASIN COMES FROM LAKE MEAD AND OTHER RESERVOIRS UPSTREAM.
IN THE UPPER BASIN, THERE IS A LOT OF WATER USING THAT IS DIRECT FROM THE RIVER, FROM THE RIVERS OR FROM RESERVOIRS THAT ARE NOT MANAGED BY THE FEDS.
THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION SORT OF SAYS, SO WE CANNOT MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING.
THERE ARE WATER MANAGERS IN THE LOWER BASIN THAT SAY THAT IS KIND OF A COPOUT.
THEY THINK THAT THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF RECLAMATION HAS MORE LEVERAGE THAN THAT.
>> AT 1922 COMPACT STILL STANDS THERE.
ARIZONA HAS GOT SOME FUNDS, IF WE NEED TO GO TO COURT, AND PROBABLY WILL IF IT CONTINUES ON ITS PATH.
I GUESS, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE.
WE SHOULD HEAR THE TIME VERSION OF THIS KIND OF THING ANY MOMENT NOW.
REALLY.
>> ANY DAY.
WE SHOULD HAVE THE TIME DECISION THAT WILL INCORPORATED THE LOWER BASIN PROPOSAL, WE HOPE.
AND WE CAN EXPECT PROBABLY SOME LEGAL CHALLENGES IN THE FUTURE.
WE CAN EX FOLK HAVE YOU BACK TO HELP YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE FINAL TRAP IS IF YOU WOULD BE KIND.
>> SARAH PORTER, KYL CENTER AT THE MORRISON INSTITUTE.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
TED: PRESIDENT TRUMP RECENTLY ANNOUNCED 50-PERCENT TARIFFS ON MOST CANADIAN GOODS.
IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ESCALATION OF THE TRADE WAR STARTED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION A YEAR AGO, AND IT HAS PHOENIX AREA BUSINESSES CONCERNED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE UNCERTAINTY IT CREATES IN TERMS OF PLANNING, HIRING AND PRICING.JOINING US NOW IS TODD SANDERS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE GREATER PHOENIX CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
TED: THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL, IT KIND OF CAME OUT OF NOWHERE THERE, THERE WAS SOME TARIFFS THAT CAME INTO PLAY IN JULY.
ALL OF THE SUDDEN, WE HAD THE NEW SET OF TARIFFS AROUND AUTOMOBILES, DAIRY, ALCOHOL.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISAGREEMENTS OVER THE ITEMS.
THE QUESTION IS, THESE ARE BROAD TARIFFS.
FOR US, DOES IT MAKE A MORE COMPETITIVE NORTH AMERICAN MARKET?
>> SECOND HERE, THIS FOLLOWED 10 TO 12% TARIFFS ON 80 COUNTRIES THE TARIFFS ARE FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE?
>> YEAH THEM THEY ARE.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAX.
LIKE TO SAY AM CHALLENGED.
IF YOU LOOK AT MY LICENSE, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
THE REALITIES, I AM BALD.
WE NEED TO CALL THESE WHAT THEY ARE.
THESE ARE TAXES.
AT LEAST ALMOST$200 BILLION IN TAXES THAT CAME OUT OF TOLL LARS THAT CAME OUT OF THE ECONOMY.
TED: YEAH.
I WANT TO GET TO THAT AS WELL IN A SECOND HERE.
BUT THE IMPACT ON A LOCAL BUSINESS.
IF I AM RUNNING A LOCAL BUSINESS, I HAVE ANY MEASURE OF ACTIVITY WITH CANADA, LET'S SAY, HOW AM I HIT IF.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, A GOOD QUESTION.
AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN TO THE STUDIO.
I PASSED CHICK-FIL-A, A STARBUCK'S, A CIRCLE K, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN IMPACTED BY THE TARIFFS.
THOSE PRICES ARE GOING TO INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD.
THE COMPANIES ARE NOT PAYING THE TAXES THEY ARE PASSED ALONG TO CONSUMERS AND WHILE WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE BREAKFAST TABLE.
HAVING THE BREAK FEAST WHAT THOSE COST LOOK LIKE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE IMPACT ON THE EVERY DAY ARIZONANS AND BUS NEGOTIATIONS.
TED: WHAT KIND WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED?
WELL, A LOT OF IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE ON COMPANIES THAT DO MANUFACTURING AND YOU THINK ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, TSMC, BUT ALL THE SUPPLIES THAT FEED INTO THAT.
THEY ARE IMPACTED BY THIS.
SO REALLY IT IS A BROAD RANGE OF BUSINESSES LARGE AND SMALL.
OF COURSE, IT TRICKLES DOWN THE FAMILIES.
>> AND WE ARE TALKING PRICING HERE.
THERE IS SO MUCH MORE INVOLVED WITH PLANNING, WITH HIRING WITH LOOKING OUT.
IN TERMS OF THE TARIFFS AND THE FACT THEY ARE COMING AND GOING AND FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT IS IT, DOES IT HURT SHORT-TERM PLANNING MORE THAN LONG-TERM PLANNING OR VICE VERSA.
IT IS ALL THE ABOVE.
I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT.
BUSINESSES LOOK FOR CERTAINTY.
WHEN YOU HAVE TARIFFS GOING ON AND OFF.
IT IS HARD TO THINK ABOUT, ALL RIGHT.
WHAT DO I NEED TO DO INSTEAD OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND HIRING WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST STRUCTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE NEXT MONTH OR SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR SO IT COMPLICATED THAT.
YOU GOT TO WONDER, WHAT KIND OF DRAG THAT IS ON THE ARIZONA ECONOMY FORGETTING ABOUT THE NATIONAL ECONOMY?
>> YEAH.
AS FAR AS SUPREME COURT STRIKING DOWN TARIFFS.
DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE?
DID THEY STRIKE THEM DOWN?
THEY DID.
IT WAS USING A DIFFERENT EMERGENCY POWERS PROVISION AS THAT EXPIRED THEY WENT INTO A NEW REGIMEN, THE ONE YOU TACKED ABOUT.
A 301 WHICH WAS, I THINK, 60 TO 0 COUNTRIES INCLUDED IN THAT BETWEEN 10 TO 12% YOU START TO SEE IMPACTS.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMY.
TED: OK.
HAVE THAT ON ONE SIDE.
THE TRADE AGREEMENT WITH MEXICO AND CANADA, THESE TARIFFS, THAT IS NOT, THAT IS NOT MAKING FRIENDS WITH CANADA.
IT IS USMCA SHOT?
>> WELL, WHAT HAPPENED NOW, SINCE WE DIDN'T GO INTO A FULL RENEW, IT IS ON A YEAR-TO-YEAR PASS SIS.
WE ARE STILL HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT WITH A DEAL.
KNOW THERE IS DISCUSSIONS WITH MEXICO.
THE LAST TIME AROUND IF YOU REMEMBER.
THERE WERE SORT OF MEXICO WAS PART OF IT.
THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN.
CANADA CAME AT THE END WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT SAME THING WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR AND BETTER SCENARIO, THEY ARE INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING.
>> IMPACT IF IT IS JUST TRADE STRAIGHT TRADE AGREEMENT WITH MEXICO AND CANADA IS LEFT OUT.
HOW BIG OF A DEAL WOULD THAT BE?
A BIG DEAL FOR ARIZONA SO ONE OF THE LARGEST TRADING PARTNERS IS CANADA AND THEY ARE IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO ARIZONA BUT YOU THINK BE THE NORTH AMERICA TRADE BLOCK EUROPE, ASIA.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG BLOCK IN NORTH AMERICA SO I THINK IT IS CRITICAL THEY ARE IN INCLUDED.
>> AND, AND, BAD ENOUGH, IF CANDACE NOT INCLUDED.
WHAT IF THE PRESIDENT SCUTTLE.
IT'S THE WHOLE TRADE AGREEMENT?
>> WELL, WE ARE FOCUSED ON IT MOVING FORWARD.
WITH YOU BUT I THINK WE HAVE PROVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SUPPLY CHAIN, THE INTEGRATION BETWEEN NORTH AMERICAN COUNTRIES LIKE MEXICO, CANADA.
I DO BELIEVE WITH THE GOING TO GET THERE.
FROM A COMPETITIVE STANDPOINT WHEN YOU START TO SEE THE REST OF THE WORLD, WE NEED TO ENSURE WE HAVE THAT RIGHT ADVANTAGE HERE IN NORTH AMERICA.
UP TO NOW, THE IMPACT ON THE VALLEY ECONOMY OVERALL.
NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES BUT THE OVERALL ECONOMY.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?
>> WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SEEING ON A SORT OF WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO BUSINESSES?
OF COURSE, IT IS NOT JUST TARIFFS INFLATION IS A THING.
INFLATION IS DRIVEN BY MORE THAN JUST TARIFFS.
BUTI THINK, WHAT WE ARE SEEING WHAT IS YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
THIS IDEA THAT I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS CAPITAL EXPENDITURE I WAS GOING TO MAKE OR AM I GOING TO BRING ON THE OTHER TWO POSITIONS OR AM I GOING TO WAIT?
IS IT MORE OF A SNAG IT IS HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THAT WILL MEAN?
BUT CERTAINLY, THERE IS IMPACT.
SO, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING MEMBERS?
THAT KIND OF A MESS AGE.
WHAT ARE YOU TELLING A COMPANY, THAT IS THINKING OF MOVING TO THE VALLEY FROM AREA THAT MAY NOT HAVE CANADA AND MEXICO AS PRIMARY TRADING PARTNER INTO WELL, THINK, WHEN IT IS FUNNY WE HAVE COMPANIES COME HERE.
BECAUSE IT IS INTERESTING HOW MUCH IN THE NEW ARIZONA IS FROM A POSITIVE PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEY HEAR ABOUT TSC.
THEY EAR ABOUT THE SECTOR AND HOW WE ARE BOOMING HERE.
SO IN MANY WAYS THEY ARE TELLING US THE STORY OF WHY THEY ARE MOVING FLOOR?
THE OPPORTUNITY, THE REGULATORY LAND CAPE, THE TAX LANDSCAPE, SO THEY ARE BULLISH LIKE WE ARE ON, ON PHOENIX AND ON ARIZONA.
>> YEAH.
OK.
BUT, AGAIN, ALL BETS ARE OFF.
THEY ARE MOVING THE GOALPOST AND LITERALLY MOVING THE GOALS?
>> YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T PET AGAINST ARIZONA BUS NEGOTIATION 234-6789 WE ARE FEELING IT.
WE ARE STRONG.
WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL, WE WILL GET PAST THIS AND CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING STATES IN THE COUNTRY.
>> TODD SANDERS GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
♪ ♪ TED: FOR MANY ARIZONA CHILDREN, FOSTER CARE CAN BE A STRESSFUL EXPERIENCE.
AN ORGANIZATION CALLED "OCJ KIDS" IS WORKING TO CHANGE ALL THAT BY PROVIDING RESOURCES AND RESTORING DIGNITY AS WELL AS SUPPORTING YOUTH LONG AFTER THEY LEAVE THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.
OCJJ'S NEXT VENTURE: A NEW COMMUNITY IMPACT CENTER.GARY WEBB IS FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF O-C-J KIDS.AND TAMMIE WEBB IS O-C-J'S CO- FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.
>> WE CREATE COMMUNITY.
WE FIGHT FOR JUSTICE FOR THESE KIDS IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.
AND MAKING THAT JOURNEY.
TED: YEAH.
GARY, GARY, THIS STARTED AS WHAT?
HOW DID THIS GET OFF THE GROUND?
>> WELL, WE SAW THE GREAT NEED.
NOBODY WAS NEEDING.
HOW DO WE RALLY TO GET INVOLVED TO FILL IN THE GAPS THAT ARE THERE IN THE SYSTEM AND SO 20 YEARS AGO, WE HOSTED OUR FIRST CHRISTMAS PARTY FOR THE FOSTER KIDS AND IT HAS GROWN EVER SINCE THEN.
>> WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED IT?
WHAT DID YOU WANT THE GOAL TO BE?
HAS THIS MISSION CHANGED OVER THE YEARS?
>> NOT REALLY.
OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY AGE GROUP TO GET INVOLVED IN HELPING THE KID THROUGH THE JOURNEY OF FOSTER CARE.
IF I FOSTER OR ADOPT, THEN, THAT FEELING IS THE ONLY OPTION I HAVE.
BUT CAN WE PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR JUNIORS, SENIORS FOR ELEMENTARY KIDS THEY CAN GET INVOLVED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE KIDS ON THEIR JOURNEY TO HAVE WHAT THEY NEED.
>> AND, PROVIDING RESOURCES?
>> YES.
TED: ESPECIALLY THOSE AGING OUT.
THAT IS A FOCUS OR PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT IS ONE OF THE FOCUSES OVER THE YEARS OF DOING THIS.
WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE, DEFINITELY GAPS IN THE RESOURCES THAT THE KIDS HAD TO SUCCEED AND AS A PARENT AND WE WOULD NOT SAY, GO OUT AND RULE THE WORLD, WE WOULD BE A NETWORK OF SUPPORT FOR THEM THROUGH THE JOURNEY AND THAT IS WHAT THE KIDS NEEDED SO WE HELPED TO PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE PIECES.
TED: WHAT ARE THE SUPPORT.
WHAT DO YOU GOT INTO BASICALLY WE HAVE A TRANSITION SUIT CASE WHEN THEY AGE OUT 18 THAT PROVIDES HYGIENE, AND AIR MATTRESS IF THEY FIND A THERE IS NO LIB, THEY MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO GO INTO THAT APARTMENT.
AND SO WE AT LEASTS HAVE THAT MINIMUM OF SOMETHING TO SLEEP ON.
THEN, CELL PHONES, WE PROVIDE BUS PASSES WHEN THEY NEED IT.
WE PROVIDE JOB TRAINING.
HELP WITH FUNDING RESOURCES FOR JOBS AND FOR HOUSING FOR CARS.
TED: AND MAINTAINING THAT RELATIONSHIP AFTER FOSTER CARE.
THAT IS A BIGGY.
>> YEAH.
THAT IS WHAT THE PHONE IS A2567ED TO A MENTOR SO IF THE KIDS GET A PHONE THEY HAVE TO CALL ON THE CARING ADULT ONCE A MONTH OR WE SHUTTLE THE PHONE OFF.
THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL WHENEVER THEY NEED SOMETHING.
TED: I READ THE GOAL IS TO CHANGE THE CULTURE OF FOSTER CARE IN ARIZONA.
HOW DOES THAT CULTURE NEED CHANGING?
>> I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS JUST PROVIDING INDIVIDUALITY WITH THE KIDS.
HEARING THEIR INDIVIDUAL JOURNEYS AND THEIR STORIES TO SAY HOW DO WE CONNECT YOU WITH THE RESOURCES SPECIFIC TO YOU TO GIVE YOU A VOICE.
THAT IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT CENTER IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED TO DO IS HOW DO WE WRAP AROUND THE KIDS, THEY GOT SYSTEM FATIGUE.
AND SO IT BECOMES CHARLIE BROWN TEACHER WHERE THEY ARE LIKE YOU DON'T HEAR ME ANYWAY.
MY VOICE DOES NOT MATTER.
WHY SHOULD I SHARE THIS THE COMMUNITY IMPACT SEN SER.
THIS IS NEW ISN'T IT.
HELPED BUILD BIZ A LOCAL COMPANY.
THE COMPANY IS.
>> SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ARIZONA BUILDER'S ALLIANCE, THEY ARE PROVIDING ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND REMODELING FOR TWO OF THE ROOMS IN THAT CENTER NOW.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT ONE OF THE ROOMS.
RESTORING DIGNITY ROOM.
EXPLAIN WHAT THAT SAYS NO THAT IS THE BABY.
>> STATISTICALLY.
90% OF THE GIRLS IN CARE HAVE BEEN EX SEXUALLY ABUSED WHEN YOU COMBINE THAT THAT CREATES A FIRESTORM FOR FAILURE FOR THE GIRLS SO WE WANTED TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME IN, FEEL SAFE, AND BEGIN TO LEARN HOW TO TAKE THEIR POWER BACK BACK.
IT STARTS WITH SOMETHING VERY BASIC LIKE TEACHING THEM HOW TO SIZE AND FIT THEMSELVES FOR BRASS.
PROVIDING BRAND-NEW BRAS FOR THEM SO CREATING DIG THAT I HAS BEEN STOLEN FROM THEM.
THEN WALKING THAT JOURNEY OF HEALING WITH THEM TO HELP THEM STEP INTO WHO THEY WERE CREATED TO BE AND NOT WHO THAT TRAUMA IS MAKING THEM.
I LIKE THE WAY YOU PUT THAT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY HELP THEM FIND IDENTITY.
YOU MENTIONED.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> AXE LIE.
TED: AGAIN, RESTORING DIGNITY A BIG FACTOR WITH THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
>> YES.
YES.
YES.
>> YEP.
TED: I GOT ANOTHER ROOM HERE.
IT IS CALLED THE CALM DOWN ROOM.
THIS ONE IS SELF-EXPLANATORY.
>> WE CHANGED THE NAME OF IT.
WE CALL IT SERENITY ROOM.
TED: OK.
>> IT IS MEANT FOR SELF REGULATION.
A ZEN ROOM.
WE CALL IT WHERE DCS WORKERS ARE HAVING A ROUGH DAY INTO THE ROOM, WE HAVE MOOD LIGHTING, MUSIC, SPECIAL FURNITURE, A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME TO RELAXING, CALM DOWN, DO THE WORK ON THE LAPTOP.
THE FOSTER KIDS WILL COME IN.
WE GOT TRAUMA INFORMED CARE ACTIVES WE GOT HEADPHONE FOR KIDS THAT ARE TRIGGERED BY SENSORY THINGS TO A ZEN CALM DOWN SOAK ROOM FOR STAFF AND KIDS.
TED: WHAT KIND OF RESULTS HAVE YOU SEEN SO FAR?
WELL, WE HAVE NOT-- THE DIGNITY ROOM WE HAVE SEEN AMAZING RESULTS BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT IN THE PRESENT LOCATION.
AND, I LOVE LISTENING TO GARY DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE THE GIRLS HAVE TO WALK PAST HIS OFFICE OUTSIDE TO GET TO MY ROOM AND THEY WILL COME WALKING DONE THE SIDEWALK SHOULDERS HANGING AND SAD, AS THEY GET TO THE ROOM HE STARTS TO HEAR THE GIGGLES THEN STARTS TO HEAR THE LAUGHTER BY THE TIME WE LEAVE THEY ARE JUST BUBBLING EVERYWHERE.
>> ARE THEY MAKE FRIENDS?
I MEAN?
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, AS A FAMILY OF SOME KIND HERE.
ARE THEY MAINING LIFELONG FRIENDS THEY COME IN AS A GROUP HOME AND CONNECTING WITH THOSE GIRLS BUT I THINK IT DEAL OF TIGHTER BOND BETWEEN THOUGH GIRLS BUT FOR US, THE COOL THING IS.
THEY COME RUNNING UP.
YOU GET THE HUGS AND THE SMILES ALL OF THE SUDDEN THEY BELONG SOMEWHERE.
THAT IS AT OUR EVENT.
THAT WITH OUR HOME?
WE LOVE THAT.
>> THAT IS MY LAST QUESTION TO YOU.
THIS HAS TO BE REWARDING?
>> OH, IT IS WITH A KEEPS US GOING WHEN WE GET THE CALLS SAYING WE HAD A GIRL GAVE US A TESTIMONY.
SHE SAID SHE SAW WHERE SHE COULD SNAP THE FINGERS AND THE LIFE WOULD BE PERFECT.
EVERYTHING WOULD BE GONE.
SHE WENT THROUGH TRAUMA AFTER TRAUMA AND SEX ABUSE AND TRIED TO SNAP MY FINGER AND NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN.
YOU CAME ALONGSIDE OF ME AND HELPED MY JOURNEY I HAVE MY SNAP BACK.
I AGED OUT.
I GOT A KID.
I AM LIVING LIFE AND DOING GREAT.
GOT MY SNAP BACK.
CONGRATS TO BOTH OF YOU.
AGAIN OCJ KIDS GARY AND TAMMY WEB.
THANKS.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.
>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
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